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they are shut out of the apostle's doctrine, and Christ's. All people mark and take notice, they are those that curse, but the apostle saith, • Bless and curse not;' these are the cursers and not blessers, that excommunicate you out of the synagogues.
Hugh Archball, priest of Stravan; John Hume, priest of Lesmahaga; William Hambleton, priest of Glasford; James Durram, priest of Glasgow; John Castaires, priest of Glasgow; Francis Ard, priest of Discert; Matthew Mackel, priest of Bothell; Henry Foreside, priest of Lingiah; James Nesmith, priest of Hambleton ; Robert Semple, priest of Les. mahaga ; Thomas Garony, priest of Edenbrough; John Burnet, priest of Hilbride.
Hugh Archball, priest of Stravan, in Anandale. These are his
P. “That Christ hath not enlightened every one that comes into the world.'
A. Which is contrary to John's doctrine. John i.9.
A. Contrary to John iii. speaking of them that hate the light, and are enlightened, and will not come to it, because the light will reprove them; so he that hates the light is enlightened, and will not receive Christ.
P. “That it is blasphemy to say, that the true light doth enlighten and condemn the world.'
A. Contrary to John i. 9. and iii. 19. that saith, “This is the true light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world.' And this is the condemnation of the world, that light is come into the world.'
P. “To say, that which reproves for sin is from heaven, is blasphemy.”
A. Contrary to John xvi. 8. who saith it is the spirit that reproves, which comes from the Father and the son, which is from heaven.
P. He crieth up a natural light, as sun, moon, and stars, and the light of Christ was before these were made, and saith, “it is blasphemy to say, they that did the things contained in the law, were blessed in the deed;' and the apostle said, “the doers of the law were justified;' and said, he would leave the Friends that spake to him, to the mercy of the people.'
A. Upon which they struck bitterly with books, fists, and stones, to destroy, but some moderate people and soldiers stayed the persecution.
John Hume, Priest of Lesmahaga. His Principles as follows, who
got into a steeple-house, and shut the door upon him; thus he taught the people.
P. "That which was to be known of God, was manifest by the things that are created.'
A. Contrary to the apostle's doctrine, Rom. i. 19. "For whatsoever may be known of God is manifest in them; for the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and godhead, so that they are without excuse.' So with that of God in them they know the invisible things from the foundation of the world, and with that they see the godhead.
P. "That God was to be known by the things that were made, as the sun, moon, and stars.'
A. But Jesus Christ said, Matt. xi. 27. No man knows the Father but the son, and he to whomsoever the son will reveal him,' and the heathens know not God, nor had the Jews seen his shape. And his servants and workmen did throw water, stones, and lime, and persecuted, and dirtied, and abused the people called Quakers, and threw a pan full of water on a soldier's neck, and he the said priest never reproved them; and these are the fruits of him and his own family, instead of gravity: well may the whole parish be out of order, when his own family is thus. So he is one that is reproved by the apostle's doctrine, 1 Tim. iii. who saith, "If you cannot rule your own family, how can you take care for the church of God ?'
Henry Foreside, priest of the parish of Lingiah in Dunbartonshire,
said in his preaching to the people,
P. "If they had christian zeal they would stone them whom they call Quakers."
A. It is the blind zeal that stones, not the zeal of the christian, that has the life of Christ; for the christian zeal is to pray for them that persecute, Matt. v. 44. and not to stone them; and to love enemies. It was the Jews' zeal that took up stones to stone Christ, John viii. 59. they stoned Stephen, Acts vii. 5. 8. and stoned the apostles, Acts xiv. 19. In this the Presbyterians have proved their christianity to be out of Christ and the apostles.
P. If Paul and the rest of the apostles had been alive, they would have stoned the Quakers.'
A. Here all may see his work to be the work of the envious man in Cain's way, Jude xi. who would murder, and wrong the apostle, who never taught nor intended any such doctrine, but said, Overcome evil with good. Rom. xii. 21. And love bears all things. 1 Cor. xiii. 7. Now see whose minister this man is, that cannot bear, but would have them stoned, and would have the apostle as bad as himself, which apostle said, “Christ was his example, who laid down his life for his enemies,' Rom. v. 8. who suffered the contradiction of sinners; who would render evil to no man, but, on the contrary, says, the Lord Jesus 'forgive them.' Luke xxiii. 34. And the apostle said, they wrestled not against flesh and blood. Eph. vi. 12. But you and they that stone, do ye not wrestle against flesh and blood? And if the apostles would have stoned, would they not have wrestled against flesh and blood ? And if the apostles should have stoned all that were contrary to their minds, and bid the people stone them, and told them it was christian zeal, what work would they have made ? as the said Henry Foreside, called minister, doth. Where would have been long suffering? Gal. v. 22. and loving enemies ? Matt. v. 44. and where would he have had any to be converted ? and who would have been persecutors? and who would have prayed for persecutors ? Ye may see what a pit ye are fallen into. And how should they have convinced gainsayers, Titus i. 9. and loved them, when they had stoned them? And this is the Presbyterian's zeal of Scotland, and not christian zeal, who would stone, and stir up his congregation to do so! for Christ, who is clothed with zeal, Isa. lix. 17. said, 'Love your enemies,' but ye are clothed with madness and folly. And the apostle that was in his zeal according to knowledge, said, 'Overcome evil with good,' Rom. xii. 21. and vengeance is the Lord's, and he will repay it.' Rom. xii. 19. And love bears all things; but his blind zeal cannot bear any thing, but cries stone them out of the way, and so wickedly and devilishly calls it christian zeal, which is false; that is, the devil's zeal. Now the apostles wrestled not against flesh and blood, but against the powers of darkness, Eph. vi. 12. but the Presbyterians, called ministers, are striking against flesh and blood; whilst ye would stone them, spiritual wickedness lies within you. So ye Presbyterian priests are as a troop of robbers that would murder in the way by consent. Hos. vi. 9.
James Dorram, called minister of Glasgow, his principles.
P. THAT the believers, even the real godly, are not without sin in this life.'
A. Here is one that is charging the elect, and laying sin to the elect that God justifies, Rom. viii. 33, that in the godly there should be sin. Sin is out of the godly, but in the ungodly, who turn the grace of God into wantonness; and what good doth his preaching do them, if they must never be without sin whilst they are upon earth, they can be but in their sin if they never preach to them. But the scripture saith, "He that believes is born of God, and he that is born of God cannot sin, because his seed remains in him,' 1 John iii. 9. But this is of another world to him, who is called James Dorram, minister of Glasgow, minister of darkness, who puts no difference bea tween the children of God, and the children of the devil. 1 John iii. 10. They would have sin whilst they are upon the earth, and it is darkness, but the apostles said they were made free from sin, Rom. vi. 22. whilst they were upon the earth.
P. 'Christ being sinless, separates him from all others.'
A. Christ being separated from sinners, Heb. vii. 26, they who are in Christ are separate from sinners and sin both, 2 Cor. vi. 17. But this James Dorram hath made the offering of none effect, Heb. x. 14, which hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. And hath made the blood of Jesus of none effect, which cleanseth from all sin, 1 John i. 7. And he hath made the everlasting covenant of none effect which blots out all sins and trespasses. And he hath made the faith of the son of God of none effect, which purifies the heart, and gives victory over the world, Acts. xv. 9. 1 John v. 5. Thou dost herein preach and hold up sin, and dost not preach it down, and yet thou sayst thou preachest not to hold it up, and yet thou preachest they must have it whilst they are upon the earth; here is confusion in thy tongue, Prov. xvii. 20. Thou shouldst have preached it down, and if thou wert a true minister, have brought them to a church where there is neither spot nor wrinkle, nor blemish, nor any such thing, Eph. v. 27, but your church is full of spots, and blemishes, and wrinkles, whilst ye are preaching up zeal to stone people, and sin while they live, as Henry Foreside and James Dorram do.
P. “God be thanked the scripture speaks nothing for freedom from sin and perfection.'
A. Thou thankest God that thou mayst live in thy sin and imperfection, and art glad of this thy false hope; but thou art a liar, thou art out of the truth in this, for the scripture saith they were made free from sin, Rom. vi. 26. And they preached wisdom among them that were perfect, 1 Cor. ii. 6, and he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified, Heb. x. 14. So the scripture speaks of freedom from sin, and of perfection.
P. "That the condemning power of sin is taken away.'
the believer overcomes commits sin, 1 John iii. 8 and 1 John v. 5, and if the believer commits sin, who overcomes the believer? And so he that commits sin is under the condemning power of sin, which thou and all others shall witness.
P. «The believer is not in sin as the unbeliever is, he sins not as the unbeliever doth;' and in another place he saith, the law is the same to the believer that it is to the unbeliever.'
A. Here any may read thy confusion; but I say unto thee, he that believeth doth not commit sin, but unbelief is sin, Rom. xi. 20, and Christ is the end of the law to every one that believes for righteousness' sake, Rom. x. 4, and yet thou puts both believers and unbelievers under the law.
Lodowick Simerell, priest of the new parish of Munckland, his
Principles and Doctrines.
P. "That it is blasphemy to say that the light in man, which reproves of sin, is the light of God, is perfect, is the gift of God.'
A. Contrary to scripture, contrary to Christ's words, and contrary to the apostles' words are thy doctrine and principle, for every gift of God is perfect, Isa. i. 17. Isa. xlix. 6. John i. 3. John 4. For Christ is the gift of God, and he will give him for a covenant of light to the Jews and Gentiles, which doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, which every one that doth truth comes to, but every one that doth evil hates the light, and will not come to the light because the light will reprove him; and so, this is the condemnation of the world, that light is come into the world, and men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil.' So this light is perfect, which doth reprove every man of sin, and is from above, and it is the gift of God, and thou art blind and in darkness that comprehends it not. And the light which doth enlighten every man that cometh into the world, Christ Jesus the gift of God, he by whom the world was made, this light was before any natural light was made, sun, moon, or stars; for all things that were made, were made by the light, which came a light into the world, that all through him might believe, for he that believes not in the light, is condemned already, and he that does believe in the light hath the witness in himself, to set to his seal that God is true; and the spirit of truth that doth reprove the world is perfect, and of God.
The light which every one that cometh into the world is enlightened with, is not conscience, for the light was before any thing was made, or conscience named: So the light is that which exerciseth the conscience towards God, and towards man, where it is loved, and the voice heard; but where it is hated, and the voice not heard, the conscience is seared,