310-311-312-313—314—315—316–317–318–319—320—321. SMITH, Right Hon. W. H.-cont. Reconstitution, [313] 84, 1631; [318] Trawling in the Moray Firth, [314] 556 Sheriffs (Consolidation), Comm. [320] 1331 Stationery Office-Copyright in Government Street Improvements (Metropolis)—Charing Statute Law Revision, 2R. Motion for Ad- Supply-British Museum, &c. [319] 1573 Charity Commission for England and Wales, Civil Services and Revenue Departments, [312] 1023, 1060, 1077, 1110; [315] Commissioners of National Education in Abroad, &c. Courts of Law and Justice in Scotland, &c. Customs, [320] 1484, 1485, 1486, 1487 Dundrum Criminal Lunatic Asylum, Irc- Fishery Board in Scotland, &c. [318] 1787, Foreign and other Secret Services, [318] House of Lords Offices, [317] 692, 693, 697 Privy Council and Subordinate Depart- Public Buildings, Ireland, [320] 892, 893, Public Education in Scotland, [319] 446 Suez Canal Company, [319] 1669, 1670, Treasury, &c. [317] 1032, 1046 Woods, Forests, &c. [318] 1626;-Report, Supply (Supplementary Estimates, 1886-7)— Court of Bankruptcy in Ireland, [311] 832, SMITH, Right IIon. W. H.-cont. Science and Art Department, [311] 836, Technical Instruction, [319] 265 ;-Reprint of Technical Instruction, 2R. [318] 1867 - Tenant Farmers (Wales), [313] 504 Tithe Commutation and Redemption—A Royal Tithe (England and Wales), [311] 1591 Tithe Commutation Acts-Incidence of Tithe Rent Charge, [316] 1323; [321] 285 Depression in Agriculture, [311] 304 International Conference Sugar Bounties, [310] 1775 on the Sugar Manufacture and False Marking of Goods at Sheffield, [311] 44, 45 Transfer of Land-A Royal Commission, Treasury and the Bank of England, [310] 162 Truck, [316] 1795;-Wage Clauses, [320] - 310-311-312-313-314-315-316-317-318-319-320–321. SMITH, Mr. S., Flintshire Currency Question-Report of the Royal Commission, [313] 697 Education Department-Technical Education -Evening Schools, [317] 220 Emigration of Pauper Children, Res. [313] 426, 444, 449 Emigration Statistics for 1836-The Return, [311] 578 Iligh Court of Justice-Publication of Details in Divorce and Indecent Cases, [313] 1060 Indecent Books and Pictures, Sale of, [317] 1615 India-Questions Bengal-Manufacture and Sale of Strong Bombay-Abkari Laws, [316] 407;-Ab- Native State of Marwar, [316] 1590 The Ryots-System of Agricultural Banks, [319] 922 Ireland-Law and Justice-Barbavilla Prisoners, [315] 1050 Irish Land Law, Comm. [317] 1673 Law and Police-Molesting Women and Young Girls, [317] 760, 761 Magistracy (England and Wales)-Nonconformist Magistrates in Flintshire, [315] 1027, 1045 Music Halls, &c.-Police Inspection-Pavilion Music Hall, [319] 480 Parliament-Business of the IIouse-Arrangement of Public Business, Ministerial Statement, [319] 662 Legal Proceedings Reports, [317] 1627 Parliament-Business of the House (Rules of Procedure)-Rule 1 (Closure of Debate), Res. [311] 999 Post Office-Post and Money Order Office at Reformatory and Industrial Schools, Great Britain, [319] 1499 Supply (Supplementary Estimates, 1886-7) Science and Art Department, [311] 1423, Smoke Nuisance Abatement (Metropolis) Bill cont. Moved, "That the House do now resolve itself into Committee upon the said Bill" June 20, [316] 531 Amendt. to leave out ("now,") add ("this day three months") (The Earl Brownlow); after short debate, Amendt. and Original Motion withdrawn; Bill referred to a Select Committen And, on June 23, the Lords following wero ramed of the Committee :-D. Westminster, E. Dundonald, E. Harrowby, E. Brownlow, L. Balfour of Burley, L. Stratheden of Campbell, L. Mount Temple, L. de Vosci, and L. Monks well Report of Select Comm. July 15 [No. 174] Bill reported July 15 (No. 175) Moved, "That the House do now resolve itself into Committee upon the said Bill" July 21, [317] 1574; after short debate, Committee put off Order for Committee discharged July 25, 1845 Committee put off July 29, [318] 515 Moved, "That the House do now resolve itself into Committee upon the said Bill" Aug 1, 676 Amendt. to leave out from ("That ") insert ("before the law for the prohibition of smoke is extended to private dwellings, it is desir able that the purpose and intention of the existing Acts be more fully carried into effect, either by their amendment or by their administration ") (The Earl of Wemyss); after short debate, on Question, Whether the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Motion? Cont. 12, NotCont. 30; M. 18; resolved in the negative; Motion, as amended, agreed to Socialism-Recent Legislation Observations, The Earl of Wemyss Aug 15, [319] 462 SOLICITOR GENERAL (see CLARKE, Sir E. G.) SOLICITOR GENERAL for IRELAND (see GIBSON, Mr. J. G.) SOLICITOR GENERAL for SCOTLAND (see ROBERTSON, Mr. J. P. B.) Solicitors' Annual Certificate Duty Bill (Mr. O'Hea, Mr. Dwyer Gray, Mr. Sexton, Mr. A. O'Connor, Mr. Deasy) c. Ordered; read 10* Jan 28 [Bill 125] 2R., Debate adjourned April 13, [313] 869 Adjourned Debate on 2R. [Dropped] [cont. 310-311-312-313-314-315-316-317-318-319-320-321. Southern Pacific, Islands of the French Colonists, The, Question, Mr. Labou- Hawaii-Reported Revolution, Question, Mr. Sale by Germans of Arms and Intoxicating Malayta, Island of H.M.S. 46 Samoa The German Squadron at, Questions, Mr. A. Tonga Question, Mr. Caine; Answer, The Secretary Disturbances at Tonga, Questions, Mr. W. II. Mr. B. Leefe, the British Consul, Questions, Religious Persecutions in Tonga, Question, Mr. W. II. James; Answer, The Secretary Report of Sir Charles Mitchell, Question, Mr. Southern Pacific, Islands of the-cont. Question, Observations, The Earl of Harrowby ; Osborne Morgan, Commander Bethell; An- Negotiations with France, Questions, Mr. Action of France, Observations, Question, The Occupation by French Troops, Questions, Mr. Tanna, Island of, Question, Sir Julian Gold. Spain [Sec Western Pacific] A " Floating Exhibition" of Spanish Pro- Alieged Murder of a British Merchant Seaman Spain-cont. 310-311-312-313-314—315–316–317–318–319—320—321. Celebration of the Jubilee Year of Her Majesty's Reign in London-Resolution, "That this House will attend at the Church of St. Margaret's, Westminster, on Sunday next, the 22nd May, [315] 258,259 Mr. Speaker explains the course he proposes to take (with the Members of the House) in attending the Thanksgiving Service in Westminster Abbey, [315] 730 Mr. Speaker acquaints the House that the University of Oxford had done him the honour to propose to confer upon him the degree of D.C.L., and requests the indulgence of the House to attend at Oxford for the purpose of receiving that degree. Agreed to; and Mr. Speaker was congratulated upon the honour which was about to be conferred upon him Mr. Courtney, the Chairman of Ways and Means, to take the Chair as Deputy Speaker during Mr. Speaker's absence, [316] 564, 565 Disrespectful Language towards Mr. Speaker Order Mr. Speaker: I cannot allow the hon. Member (Mr. Parnell) to question the ruling of the Chair. If the hon. Member desires to do that, he must do it in the regular way, and by asking the Ilouse to pronounce whether I was right or wrong, [311] 212; [313] 371 Those remarks of the hon. and learned Gentle man (Mr. T. M. Ilealy) are scarcely respectful to the Chair. . . . . I must call upon the hon. Gentleman to leave that line of remark, [311] 954 Mr. Speaker: Order, order! The tendency of the hon. Member's remarks now is to dispute the ruling of the Chair, [310] 1888 [cont. SPEAKER, The-cont. The Chairman of Committees-Mr. T. M. Healy I shall be glad if the Chairman of Committees would take part in the debate, and inform us —— Mr. Speaker: The hon. and learned Member will see that that is in the nature of an appeal to the Chair from the Chairman of Ways and Means, and is quite out of Order, [311] 849 Reflections on the Chair Dr. Tanner: I do not like to indulge in any innuendo; but, during the first Session I was in the House, I frequently noticed one of the Whips going to the Chair- Mr. Speaker Order, order! I must ask the hon. Gentleman not to pursue that line of innuendo.-Dr. Tanner: I had no intention- Mr. Speaker: I must ask the hon. Gentleman to withdraw the expression he has used, [312] 482 Mr. Deasy: I was proceeding to ask the right hon. Gentleman opposite to reply to the right hon. Gentleman the Member for South Leeds (Sir Lyon Playfair). I was expressing my surprise when your interruption- Mr. Speaker Order, order! I must ask the hon. Gentleman to be more respectful, or I must take very serious notice of his remarks, [312] 92 THE NEW RULES OF PROCEDURE (1887) Precedence-Resolution .... In the course of the debate on Resolution to give precedence to the new Rules of Procedure, Mr. Parnell proposed to add, "in the opinion of this House the state of Ireland is such as to require the disclosure." Mr. Speaker: Order, order! I am sorry to interrupt the hon. Gentleman; but I must point out that we have got to the word "day" in the third line of the Resolution; and, therefore, it would not be competent to the hon. Member to move the Resolution he proposes, [310] 1796, 1797 Precedence of the New Rules of Procedure over the Orders of the Day In the debate on the Resolution to give procedence to the new Rules of Procedure, after the Resolution had already been agreed to and passed by the House, Mr. Parnell 'proposed to add a Proviso. Mr. Speaker said: In my opinion, that is in direct opposition to the first proposition. If the Government have power to give precedence among the Orders of the Day to the proposed Rules of Procedure by the first proposition, by the second they are forbidden to do so under the terms of the hon. Gentleman's provision. The two together will have a militating effect one upon the other, [310] 1800, 1801 Mr. Speaker refers to the difficulty arising from an hon. Member who has addressed the House on the Main Question speaking again on Amendments, under circumstances stated, [311] 199, 204, 207, 209 If the 1st Resolution is passed, it will come into operation immediately, [311] 208 [cont. 310-311-312-313-314-315-316-317-318-319-320-321. SPEAKER, The-cont. I would remind the hon. Gentleman (Mr. Conybeare) that the principle of coercion is not the subject of discussion, but the question of the application of the clôture when coercive measures are introduced, [311] 523, 625, 526 Mr. Courtney desired to put a Question in reference to the adjourned debate on the Rules of Procedure, in respect of which there were three Amendments on the Paper to omit the words "if the consent of the Chair has been previously obtained," and three other Amendments to insert other words after the word "made;" and Mr. Courtney asked whether these Amendments ought not to be taken before the Amendments to leave out "if the consent of the Chair has been previously obtained ?”—Mr. Speaker thought that these Amendments should take precedence of the Amendments to leave out "if the consent of the Chair has been previously obtained," inasmuch as they come after the word "made," [311] 894 1 After a Division, an Amendment proposed (Mr. W. H. Smith)-Mr. Speaker was proceeding to put the Question, when Dr. Clark rose and moved the adjournment of the debate Mr. Speaker: I consider that Motion an abuse of the Rules of the House, and I shall put the Question forthwith, [311] 1647, 1648 Mr. Speaker explains at length the situation after the Motion "That the Speaker do now leave the Chair"-On that Question, supposing that the closure has been moved and the Speaker's consent given, the Question then would be "That the Speaker do now leave the Chair," as against the Amendment; and that Question would become the substantive Question before the Ilouse. That would not preclude discussion taking place on a subsequent Amendment, because it does not follow that a Member would make application to the Chair to apply the closure to any subsequent Amendment; it would not necessarily be shut out by the closure operating against the former Amendment [Sce Text], [311] 1683 The hon. and learned Member is not entitled to discuss the words of another Amendment, [312] 46 Order of Amendments.-The whole point is whether the closure, on being applied, will prevent subsequent Amendments-what may bo called "bogus Amendments"-coming in. The whole question is whether, upon the closure being applied, such Amendments will not be ruled out, [312] 49, 102, 103, 434 The First Resolution of the proposed New Rules of Procedure having been agreed to, Mr. W. H. Smith moved, "That this Resolution be a Standing Order of the House." Question arising as to further proceeding with the Resolutions, Mr. Speaker said: The Question before the IIouse is, whether this Resolution should be a Standing or a Sessional Order. I do not think a general SPEAKER, The-cont. debate can take place upon a mere question of time, [312] 801 Mr. T. P. Gill: What I wish to know is, whether your ruling extends to the preclusion of Amendments to the Motion, "That you do leave the Chair," for the purpose of going into Committee of Supply upon Civil Service Estimates; and whether your ruling will extend, further, to the preclusion of any debate upon the subjects to which these Notices apply in Committee of Supply? .. Mr. Speaker: I cannot presume to settle cases before they arise. I must see and hear what is said in debate before I can give an opinion, [312] 859, 860 Sir W. Ilarcourt: There is another inquiry I should like to make. The right hon. Gentleman the First Lord of the Treasury has assumed the consent of the Speaker to the closure. Mr. Speaker: Order, order! I would point out that the Motion now before the House is one for the adjournment of the debate; and, further than that, I regard these constant references as to whether my consent has been obtained or not as utterly and entirely irregular. I think it fair to myself, and just to the House, that if any insinuation of that sort is made it is unworthy, and it is untrue. No assent of mine has been asked or withheld, [313] 177, 178 Great Eastern Railway-Mr. Labouchere: I rise to a point of procedure, Sir. I claim to move that the Question be now put. Mr. Speaker: The hon. Member having made that Motion, I decline to put it, [315] 692 Mr. T. M. lealy: I wish to put a Question to you, Sir, on a point of Order- namely, whether an hon. Member who, in the course of the debate, has spoken on the Main Question, can move the closure, having regard to the fact that a Member who has spoken on the Main Question cannot move an Amendment? Mr. Speaker: It is quite competent for an hon. Member to move the closure under the circumstances specified by the hon. and learned Member, [315] 612, 905 Criminal Law Amendment (Ireland) BillCommittee. The First Lord of the Treasury moved a Resolution directing the Chairman to put forthwith the Question in regard to such clause or clauses as had not been previously decided. To which an Amendment moved by Mr. Parnell. Mr. Speaker explained the way in which he proposed to put the Question, so as not to preclude the consideration of other Amendments, [315] 1616, 1617, 1618 Technical Schools (Scotland) Bill-Mr. Sinclair: I claim to move " That the Question be now put." Mr. W. II. Smith having objected-Mr. Speaker: I decline to put that Question, [318] 1953 Mr. T. M. Ilealy asked whether it was competent for the right hon. Gentleman (Mr. W. H. Smith), after having made a speech, to move that the Question be now pat? Mr. Speaker: That point was settled the other day, [319] 1015 |