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Embellished with. Prespective Views of St. KENELM's Chapel; and of RAVENSTONDALE Church, WESTMORLAND; a Medal of CHRISTINA Queen of SWEDEN, and one of JAMES Duke of MONMOUTH; some curiou. PAINTED

GLASS; a Play of the TEMPLE of DIANA, &c. &c.

Mr. URBAN, Shrewsbury, lib.j. the oid Abbey Church, at St. Edmund's HA

AVING in vol. LXVII. p. 738, Bury, Sutiosk.--It is fiuid this grand

given a very accurate N. W. view monafiery was built in 1028. The hotof St. Kenelm's Chapel, I am induced, tle, which I have in my policfiion in to fend von a S. E. view of that re a perfect fiate, appears to be conposed markable structure. The other view of a tine light rid earth, and of very was accompanied with a legendary ac hard consilience; a the drawing is 4 count of St. Kenelin; with this, you pretty exact representalion of it. J.O. have a few observations on the building, &c.


08. 16. The general appearance of the build Tidlanincio ed are tolerably correct ing Henry the Third's line; but the South the one (fig. 5) of filver, the other entrance, over which is fome ancient (fig. 6) of gold. I had no opportunity fculpture, is undoubtedly part of the of exactly ascertaining their weight or old Saxon Chapel, which was erected dimensions; but judge them, from foon after the discovery of king Ke- handling, to be nearly four inches in nelm's body. The lower is a very diameer, and that the gold ring might elegant specimen of Gothic architecture. weigh about twelve or thirteen ounces, On the outlide the chapel svall, front and that of filver about ten ounces, ing the South, is carved a rude figure The gold ring I fekcied, as the largest of a child, with two of bis fingers lifted and bent wronght, from among eleven up, in the ancient form of giving the others, fome of which were quite plain, l'inediction. Above the head of the fi- with double and treble feroils, not in gure is carved a crown, which projects like the fcroll mouth-pieces of a French considerably from the wall: no doubt horn. the whole was intended to represent The Glver rings exceeded those of St. Kenelm; fee fig. 2. As this chapel gold, in number, size, and variety of was never privileged with the right of forins (The specimen from which the sepulture, no monuments or interip- drawing was male, represents a fillet.) tions appear, nor are there any arms, But they are fur infcrior in point of &c. in tlie windows. Fig. 3. represents workmanship, being very coarse, and the end of a feat facing the South en rude. They all bear eviilent marks of trance, which seems the only original font having been hammered out, and not left, the other being of modern erection. calt. The following is an inventory of the

There were besides, with this col. plate, &c. which belonged 10 St. Ke- lection, feveral wedges of filver, of the nelm's chapel, before the difloluvou. weight of from 12 10 20 ounces each; A lytyll

' fhryne withi odur relyques but whether there wedges were found therein.

fo, or whether they were inelled down A heade of Seynt Kenelme, fylver from some of the rings, I could not and gylt.

learn. A crowne of Sylver and gylt, with a This treasure is, or was rery lately, cepter of lylver.

in the polieflion of Mr. De'Landre, A pix of fluer.

goldimili, of Skinner-Row, Dublin. A chalvs gyld with pax-brede sylver The account of it is very untatissaciory. and guld.

They say it was found not long Gnce A folypp of sylver for incense. in a bor, in the counir of West Meath, Yours, &c.

D. PARKES. but the potlotior declines communicat

ing any particulars of the finding Mr. URBAN,

Dec. 6. Ti is nou caly eren lo conjecture fo. found fome years ago, wiihtonie intenderl, A certain Antiquary main

of or others, in a vault, under the ruins of tuin that they appertained to’a great Genr. Mag. Supplement, 1802.


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temple, which, according to him, once to have been either diafiyle, or entitie exified in the county of West Meath, it was uncandid, therefore, in Otitia dedicated to the Sun, under the name tor, to pretend that this argume of Bal or Bel. That the worship of out of the quellion as applicable to the the Solar Fire did once fubaft in the Ephesian Diana; since it obiars in country, he afrs, is proved by fereral any lonic temple, (fee:he cited false; heather cere!:00es set in alé among item in diaftylo, &c.-Incantidad the natives ; & alto from thi nanes of in nuring nui a volley 'oi lelients feveral well-known places, which epithets to discredit a fair demona fignify as much, as Bâl-tien-glas, Bål. tion, proving that by finilar line's timore, Bel-turbet, &c. and he als taken with che central intercoles that the furpentine forms of the greaier an octafiyle, as Lator took in tisunumber of ibele rings, do clearly prove decalles like coincidence : them of orieatai derivation, inasmuch Pliny's dimenfions may be obtained: as the creature they represent was it was incumbent on' Obfervatism never found in Ireland.

hold to his readers the deberecht In confequence of draining the bogs, that demonstration, before he iniz and interfecting the country with ca in those intemperare expreffions, nals, which is now profecuting with having found the clalorate cili so much profitable induftry, curious tions, groundiefs atleriions, and in antique articles are constantly dit arguments of Philo-echnon, hasri covering; and if these discoveries re the least folid foundation for their 15 fiect no new light on the old Mikhan port, de Gentleman's Magazilie kui Romances, they however prove that April lali, p. 312. the precious metals formerly abounded "To the retorted question, where is in Ireland, and that the inhabirants the good fenle, &c.? the anisere, were not ignorant of the manner of that had the immcnse martie in working them.

Tunns erected by Crefiphon been 73 It is proper to mention, that there fumed, as well as the timber, by the is another report current in Dublin fire kindleil by Herofiratus, it is quit refpecting there articles, wz. that they consonant with good lente were brought from Egypt, and formed them refiored as they were bene. part of the plunder obtained by tone there be any wani of lense in su individuals of our army employed in merely fuppofing, but circumfunga the Egyptian expedition. This report, atlering, that the Ephelian Dana Ts bowever, is politively contradicted by an octantyle diptere, a Ctefiphone en the pollafior; who' savs, noreover, fitina; that it was the moti magnites: that general Vallancy has made drame of all Grecian * temples ; this iten ings of the whole, which he intends 220 feet in front; that the beinheit to publish with a nemoir. E. IV. its columns was a third of its widt!

that iis architeci was Clefiphon: Mr. URBAN, Poriseа, 02. 10,

ir was not complied in less tie than INCE Observator, P: 735, once 200 years, nor bolets efforts than on the subject of the Ephesian Dana, matter io find out 27 rulers 1 Philo-technon relies on your imparti- kings, in fich a lapse of time!; if a. ality for as early a place as convenient hele anterions and circumliares to this rejoinder.

plied 10 dhe Ephefian Diana as exiting It was not for the much-fpoken-of in and some time afer the Anguts in ont service of bring P-t right, are, are all or any of them te delen 03 well as bimself, about a teniple of sie refcfion lirike's at Virrusia 24 Diana, not the Ephesian, that Obt112 Pins, not at P-t.-- But won't tor was charged with want of cancour, feritor feel fåsistied iliat his silen! bunt for the unfair inferenc drain as

repuiation of goori leule Moud 1 4 a consequence of that topographic mil the tippoliton, that so many arter: take. For whether the example ciied immenle marble columns icte exifted at Magnetia, or at Ephefiis, ftroved and levelled with nie groen fince in both places the temples were byone nigini's conflagration of theis Ionic, the columns in either of them ber within walls fesen ar eight be not being more than eicht diameters thich? l'ere we mot lately witnefe anila halt, and perhaps le/s, the inter 10 a lamedable contagnation of our coluindiation af fuch, according 10 Fitruvius, chap. 11. book III. is argued * Sw a piau of it in page nid..

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timber work in St. Paul's Covent Gar- given by Vitruvius, therefore they are den, where there was a much greater set oti with the crepidines, which were proportion of combustible matter than the projectures of cornice of stylobates at ihe fire at Ephelus; vet do we not when there was a podium, or the talftill evjoy the remarkable portico of lies of the upper tread over the top Inigo Jones's temple? and will he not rifer of the flight of feeps, which were fill he called its architect? To the se- adjulied by feet and inches, not by cond part of the retoried question ; it modules: and this was the reason of is an livered, there was nothing lenleless their exemption at cach end of the in allerring, that Vitruvis referred front line; ihe crepidines, because they Auguftus to the Ephefian Diana, as an were never of a commensurate quanintiance of an Oatait vle diptere, becaule tity; the projectures, because unfettled ftrialy true; and P- cited the pal- as to their number of ininutes which, fage, book III. chap. I. Obfervator's unless just 15 or of a module, would affected unacquaintance with this par caute the divifor in have a troublesome fage and his pretence of being drawn frostion, for there appears no other into an error by P-t, because no fich reason for their exemption.-But it is reference to any particular temple is an utterly false idea that Vitruvius made in the preface to 7th book, is bounds the front of a temple at the ans another fpecinien of his want of can gular Pafts; his words are; “ Prons dorir.

laci, quæ in ædle couftituta fuerit, fi There must either be an error of the terrativlos facienda fuerit, dividatur in press, or an ablence of mind, when partes undecim femis præter crepidines Observator wrote the following lines : et projecturas fpirarum: fi lex crit “ Vitruvius--on the cultyle species, hy columnarum in partes 18 ; fi ocialiylos dividing the place designed for the front ... in partes 24 et femitlem..... of the jemple into a number of paris, oma pars erit modulus." In English, obtains the part for the module and " The local front appointed for a teinple diameters of the columns, upon this when four columns, is to be divided divition, previous to the exclusion of into eleven parts and a half belides the the projecture of the bases, which, if marginals and projectures of (angular) adıniited into the space set out for the bles, (cm words more clearly fay front of the temple, would contract it, that the projectures and marginals are and the species would no longer be a part of the local front line); when lix the entiyle'." Now P--t, willing to columns into 19 parts; when & into take advantage of this pallige, which 24 parts and a half; one fuch part as it lies is absolutely intelligible, Mali be the module." It is not true, gives Oblervator credit, that he wrote, therefore, that Iz!Turius fires the or intended to write armillion, infitead Irraith of the temple in front at the of cxclufin, afier the words, previous er!cit of the facts of the anguilcr coto the. This will make sense of the lumas, excluding the projecture of the reading, but the inference drawn is bafes and platform; nor are Pent's argı? milierably inaccurate, and the allerrion menis, vol. LXI. p. 1084, and calthat follows it void of cruth. For the culations, founded upon a vague and false admillion of the angular projectures lajis, bui upon the clear documents would only change the divilor anxi con and affertions of Vitruvius, who in. tract the scale, but nowavs interrupt fitutes the above divisions for the exthe ensi vle fimmetrv. And Viroving preis purpose of finding the inodule, mult certainly intimites the division in which is injudicious denied by Obquestion, on purpose to recover a 10 fervator. The rain evideöce, therefore, dulus, which, being a commenfurate lo pertinacioulis triumphed in, of an quantity, can only be obtained from a untractional coincidence of a dcdecastyle divition of a line that he comunenture with Pliny's dimentions, is rabilicy, which is not the cate with frunded on a glarios inilapprehension the whole extent of the front line of a of the ineaning of Vitruviis, as herein temple; for the crepilines and pro- proved, and Pat's former expofition, jectures of augular bafes, though they it is infilted 011, is cruc and accurate. certainly belong to the front line of a Virrurius pointing nut &c. and the temple wiren bafes are emploved, vet, thirteen lines following, are allovether as ibe Doric columns bare no bares, mintelligible; there is no inch pallage and as their projećuires are disputed, in Vitrerins. If it is rightly conjec. and feldoen allowed the 15 ininuies tured, he means to infinuate as a de



dacion from the documents of Vitru- pethros, nor will he, or any perlos, vius, that the pycnostyle and fyltvle prove ihat it had columns in its coll.may have their central intercoluinn As to Observator's idea of what Vitruwidened, as they require it full mure vius calls the pofticum, it is to forca than the eufiyle; if this be Observator's to the reality and erroneous, that he meaning, it is anlivered that in the will find reason enough to complainii prefen: pursuit ve lezh, not what P-t being drawn into an error by acerdita or Obterrator may think an improve- ing Perrault and other inoderas. Ti ment ou Vitruvius, but what Vitruvius fuliječt will be discutled in No. did, or did not, really reach. He ob- XXVIII. P--, in the mean time, jects to the prenoliyle and fyfiyle, be- informs Observator, that he will find cause those narrow intercolumns were al lalt, that what Vitruvius mens by inconvenient; to the diaftsle, becaule Posticuin is, that in peripteres a finale the intercolumns were to wide that in dipleres a double walking-place at the the episivles were apt to break: he ex backs of thele temples, with columns tolls the invention of the euftvle as a in number and disposition like the remedy for hoth : this is the fubfiance in the portico, and the back wall of the of what Vitruvius fuys on the lubject, cell tolid without aperture, is the onni which, clear as it is, Oblervator has ditinguithing characteristie of the pia obscured, to conceal fome strange in- ticum from ihe portico in front, where, ference of his own, froin the glare of instead of a folid wall on the fide of the noon-day funshine.

inner walk, there are in front of pronzos Observator tells us he has fufficient two columns and three intercolare knowledge of Greciar temples, to pro- enclosed to a certain height with bar nounce that columns are as neceilary lutrades and three doors leading to the in the cell and pollicum, as in the pro- interior part of pronaos. Whatever naos ..... to support the cieling and other idea of a polticuin and portica roof when the fan was above 40 feet. may be figgested, it has noihing to do Now to cut this part of the controverty with Vitruvius. And Obferraior w fhort, P-t pronounces, from his knoir. allo find that he has been 100 DIN ledge of the geometrical principles of in his retort on P-i's plan of the carpentry, that any fjan, eren of an Ephesian Diana ordained as directed by hundred or an hundred and fifty feet, Vitrurias, and is pot, like the jour provided the walls are proportionably cafiyle, an unprecedented whim. Osinick (which is always the cale in fervator knows his darling dodecalne Grecian temples), may have a cieling has its death warrant signed in the and roof fuiiponied without either co- chap. 23, boek 36, of Pliny's Natural lumn or forlcrum of any kind under, History, where it is laid the antitta belides the walls, and that the ancients made the columns in the Ephei 19 knew there principles of carpentry, we

Diana a third of the temple's brenn learn from 'Plins, Julius Caefar, and in height; and fo far is this paling others. Therefore if Observator knews from being corrupted, ibat it clearin no more of the other documents of accords with whai Vitruvius has Lid Grecian temples, than of their roofs, of this temple, and with what he has he has much more to learn than be tauglii concerning lonic columns; in probably tutjects. Moli undoubtedly this paitage proves that it was statiske the ancients placed colunms in the cells eutiyle, fiuce the divifor for luch'a of such temples as were dedicated to front without the projeciures is on the imaginary divinities fupposed to and as the projectures at lali are in delight in the open air; and ihele tein have their places in the front, we w] ples were accordingly called hypethros, add thele two proje&tures = adio and urvally decative, though the Jul- ameter to the divifor, and make it is, piter Olympius is laid by Virrurius lo one third whereof is equal sy, the be oétalisle and bopethice: there had' commenfurate height of ille coluna columns in thcir cells ; but not there to therefore was 8 diameters and 5, an fupport the roof, for the cell was open the abfolute, 73 feet 4 inches. Or at top to the sky. Concerning these tervator says the text is corrupted be temples --- wil fully treat in No. caule luch gigantic columns were never XXIX. and XXX. when it shall beard of. He Tould have adde, come to their turn to appear. --At pre- never heard of ieture the End fent Observator may rest satisfied that Diuna rues heard of, which forms ihe Epheiian Diana was not an hy. Very quality which he calls gigao'a,


ore than for any other consideration, constant in my attendance, and have is celebraed as one of the wonders frequently been entertained and iira the world; and the largest of all fructed by the very ingenious and imples then exilling, and now con- learned papers that are from time to ulively proved to have been an octa- tine read at their meetings, as well as Yle eulttle diptere.

by numerous curious objects submitted Lalily, P-i did not atlert that the to their inspection. I have allo reJes in antis had the ante on the tides, ceived, in common with the rest of the ; the authority of Vitruvius; but on members, such a number of rich and se authority of common sense and splendid publications from them, as ominon practice in regular and elegant otten to excite my admiration from uildings: there will be difcufled in what fund they were produced, or how seir place; in the mean time P-- the Society could poliibly afford to an but thank Observator for furnishing publish, and give them to their nov in with a proof from Vitruvius, very numerous brethren. In fact, to nough unintentionally, that there very fplendid have their publications vere pilasters along itse fides; but not been, of late particularly, that it has Otie, which he days belong to the ends proved an incitement, on the one f walls as their ter:nination, and that land, to numerous persons to offer he parallatæ are contined along the themselves as candidates, who had no valls; and then defies P--t to produce pretensions whatever to belong to that any one example in Vitruvius for har- or any other literary Society; and, on the ng along the wall pilatlers which he other, it has led, or rather compelled the ays are parastatæ not anta as Pet Society (in order to enable them to lupalls themi ; this is fairly stated; now


the expences they were engaged Vitruvius book III. chap. 1. has in), to content to the admillion of such hese words, ædium principia funt an indiscriminate rabble, as has very

..... et primum in Antis, quod Græcè much lessened and dezraded the title of news & Tæpyttari dicitur: here let the Socius, or Fellow, once to honourable reader decide whether antæ the Larin and to much valued. name, and parafatæ the Greek, are

Bat though by this indiscriminate not the fame things.-It remains 10

admillion of members a confidcrable apologize, for the length of this letter; quantity of ready money was brought is is an aglwer to a long one.

into the treafury of the Society, yet Yours, Sc. PHILO-TECINON.

by ihat means the number of copies of their works they were obliged to give

away (each meinber being en:cled lo Mr. URBAN,

Dec. 20. one) were so increased, what, intead A , it adiled to their embar

accruing to the community from raffinents. the publication of Magazines or Jour Accordingly, in the course of the last nals at stated periods, one, and not fellion, the Council proposed and rethe least, is the opportunity afforded commended, that the members of the of examining into the conduct of Society should be affelled in the folindividuals, or of societies of men, towing nranner ; that is, “ that all whole acts have an intluence on the the members, who were now paying learning, the morals, or the happiness two guineas, should hereafter pay of the people. This, when done with three guineas annually ; and those temper and moderation, may be pro- meinbers, who had compounded for ductive of lingular benefit, not only their annual payments by paying 26 to the publick, but to the persons or guineas on their admission, thould now føcieties, whole conduct is teruuuized. pay a further tim of 10 guineas;" and, Under the impression of thris opinion, in failure of making these additional and with the view of cHecting fome payments, they were to be rejected change in the management of a learned from the list of members. This proand respectable body, the Society of An- pofal was hung up the time direcied tiquaries, with which you, Mr. Edi- hv the statutes in the meeting roum of tor, have long been connected, I shall the fociety, to receive the fauciion of a request the infertion of the following general meeting of the members; hy obfervations.

whom it was almost unaniinoully reI have been several years a member of jeeted, there being scarcely any but the that very respectable Society, am prelty members of the Council who voted for


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