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Mr. URBAN,

Nov. 6. TH HE perfon who, under a fictitious name, has deceived the lovely Nymph of Buttermere, whom Captain Budworth in his "Fortnight's Ramble" has fo pleatingly defcribed (vol. LXII. 1115; vol. LXVI. p. 1134; vol. LXX. p. 22), turns out to be a notorious impoftor, by name John Hatfield. In an advertisement offering a reward of 501. for his apprehenfion, it is ftated that he has fomething of the Irish brogue in his fpeech, fluent and elegant in his language, great command of words, frequently puts his hand to his heart, very fond of compliments, and generally addrelling himself to perfons moft diftinguished by rank or fituation, attentive in the extreme to females, and likely to infinuate himfelf where there are young ladies. He was in America during the war, is fond of talking of his wounds and exploits there, and on military fubjects, as well as of Hatfield hall, and his eftates in Derbyshire and Chester, of the antiquity of his family, which he pretends to trace to the Plantagenets; all which are thameful falfehoods thrown out to deceive. He makes a boaft of having often been engaged in duels; he has been a great teaveller alfo (by his own account), and talks of Egypt, Turkey, Italy, and in fhort has a general knowledge of fubjects, which, together with his engaging manners, is well calculated to impofe on the credulous. He was feven years confined in Scarborough goal, from whence he married, and removed into Devonfhire, where he has bafely deferted an amiable wife and young family. He had art enough to connect himfelf with fome very refpectable merchants in Devonshire as a partner in bufinefs; but, having fwindled them out of large fums of money, he was made a feparate bankrupt in June latt, and has never furrendered to his commiffion, by which means he is guilty of felony. He cloaks his deceptions under the mask of religion, appears fond of religious converfation, and makes a point of attending divine fervice and popular preachers. To confummate his villanies, he has lately, under the very refpectable name of the Hon. Colonel Hope, betrayed this innocent but unfortunate young woman. He was on the 25th October at Ravenglafs, in Cumberland, wrapped in a failor's great coat and difguifed, and is fuppofed to be

now fecreted in Liverpool, or fome adjacent port, with a view to leave the country. INDIGNANT.

Mr. URBAN,

Nov. 8. PLAN has been lately propofed, A by a Religious Society, for promoting the fuccefs of the Gospel in France by the circulation of various Proteftant works, explaining and im preffing the leading principles and beneficial effects of Christianity; and especially by a religious periodical publication, the profits to be applied to the relief of the widows of Protef tant minifters in that country; or to the education of young men for the miniftry; as may appear beft. On theie grounds the adoption of the following refolutions have been recom mended.

1. That the measures already taken for the tranflation of the Effay *, and its circulation by fale, as well as the printing and fale of the New Teftament, be confirmed.

N. B. Two thousand of each are ordered; the coft of which will be about 1157.

2. That the Committee be authorized to direct the following books to be printed Miffionary Society, viz. and circulated by fale, for account of the

5000 Bibles and Testaments, which £. will cost about

5000 Watts's ft Catechifm, which

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3. That a committee be formed for taking into confideration the beft means by which a periodical publication, fimilar formed and conducted in France. to the Evangelical Magazine, could be

4. That an application be made for fix fuitable perfons to be fent over to England, to receive instructions under the pa tronage of our Society, with a view to the exercife of the Proteftant ministry in France.

5. That an address from our Society to the Proteftants in France, tending to call forth their exertions in the caufe of the Redeemer, be formed by the Committee of Correfpondence.

6. That the Rev. Samuel Tracy be appointed the agent of our Society in Paris, confidered as having acted in that capacity from the commencement of his arrival in that city. Yours, &c. SERIOUS. * A small tract, already in circulation.

for fix months to come; and that he be

Mr. URBAN, Winchefter, Nov. 3. OR the fake of old acquaintance, inform J. P. Malcolm, that, in anfwering his letter of July 13 (p. 623) near three months ago, I answered by anticipation all that is material in his letter of October 7 (p. 913), together with his plate of illuftrations, as far as regards our controverly; by fhewing the neceflity there is of a feientific criticifin on fuch occafions for diftinguifhing between Saxon and English architecture, as alfo between the original work and the bungling repairs of later ages. The effay in queftion was not deemed proper to be communicated to the pub lick; becaufe, in addition to my vindication of the Architecture of our Anceltors, I prefimed alfo to vindicate their moral character from that gentleman's afperfions; and ventured to fuggeft fome doubts whether our Alfreds, Edwards, and Wykehams, did altogether think that a place in Heaven was to be purchafed by erecting a fuperb church, and founding a chantry for males in one corner of it;" and whether they did not lay fome little firefs on the Chriftian and moral virtues. If, Sir, you will indulge me fo far as to permit me thus barely to ftate my accounts with my antagonist (for whofe perfon and findies, by-the-bye, I feel no antipathy, but much good-will), I promife not to lead you into a farther controverly concerning either the architecture or the morality of former ages, by attempting to anfwer his farther animadverfions, or thofe of any other writer on thefe fubjects. J. M.

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(In continuation from vol. LXX. p. 319. IT has always been held proper, that, whenever a cafe is brought forward for difcullion, the opinion of men most converfant in the fubject of debate generally determines the queftion. For infiance, the welfare of our antient Architecture fhall be the topick. Mr. Malcolm, p. 913, draws his proofs in favour of the "chafte imitations" of Tavificck chapel from a few mean and trifling antient churches in and about London, and from prints; which prints, though ever fo correctly given in point of their general refemblance to the mafs of thofe buildings from which they are

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copied, can be of but little fervice to guide the conftruction of a new buildbear a fimilarity to any one of them. Many of the prints named by Mr. M. as authorities are on fo fmall a fcale, and their forms fo incorrect, that they appear more the productions of memory than faithful delineations from the originals. In no one part of the Monafticon," or the "Beauties of Wiltshire," that I know of, are to be found thofe details and minute characters, futficiently "made out" from our antient ftructures, so that mafons, bricklayers, carpenters, or plasterers, can work from them in "chafte inntation." I am by habit a zealous Antiquary, and by profeffion a confiant follower, in the fcience of our antient Architecture, by actual ftudy from the real remains fo illuftrative of all its properties. From thefe prefumptions I declare that it is impoffible to give a true reprefentation of any part of fuch works, in a building about to be fet up, without an exact plan, elevation, the mouldings, and ornaments, &c. thereunto belonging, made on the fpot from the model fixed on to be religi outly adhered to. Such drawings muft allo be well explained to the artificers, and their progrefs daily watched, to fee that they attend to the working drawings fet before them.

The "windows."--Mr. Malcolm's engraved famples of the plain interfecting mullious are erroneous, as they are either irrelevant to the caufe in difpute, modern whimties, or their double A and treble B tracery turns within the fweeps cut away to fave the expence of reparation, as at C (Pl. II. fig. 7 8.), to give more light through the windows, or that thefe interfecting fweeps may appear (which is the fact) more confonant to the ideas of modern architectural men.

Confidering the many alterations and beautifyings that St. Dunstan's church, Fleet-fireet, has undergone in our time, it is a guefs pretty near the truth, that the windows there have undergone the above "cuttings." As for the fmall window in the Weft front of Exeter cathedral, it is moft apparent that it does not bear the original finishings: the late Architect of that church, with whom I was well acquainted, did more than once fatisfy me in this refpect.

The "buttreffes." Mr. M. does not feem well to underftand the difference between a buttrefs, a pilafter,

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or a break in the wall of a building. Buttreffes are the exterior fupports to the piers between the windows, and diminishing in their profiles on one, two, or more tories. Pilafters are literally the fquare-worked counterparts of columns, either of the Roman or Grecian orders, equal to them in height, width, and outline, and are only applicable on edifices defigned after thefe ftyles, although, in fome inftances, in deferibing particular parts of our antient works, we are ftill obligated to ufe the term. Breaks in the wall are rather fimple in their lines, extremely broad, and feldom projecting more than a twentieth part of their diameter, introduced on antient works more for diverfifying the face of the building than for fupport as in the property of the buttrefs character. I have made drawings of Durham cathedral, and am at this time doing the like office for Gloucefter cathedral, on the largeft fcales poffible (both thefe collections done under the influence of the Society of Antiquaries); and I profefs Mr. M's quoted buttrelles, pilafters, and breaks in the wall, from the fall views of thefe buildings in the Monafticon, are totally unlike any thing on those two auguft fabricks themfelves, as are alfo his other engraved buttress documents to any of thofe originals to which he fo confidently alJudes. Tavistock chapel "pilafters" are full pilafters, as any of our practical books on the five orders of Roman and Grecian architecture will fufficiently demonftrate.

To Mr. M. however, I have infinite obligations, as he has afforded me an opportunity, long waited for, of exculpating myfelf from having permitted the name of Gothic" to ftain the pages of my work, "Specimens of antient Sculpture and Painting." It is as far back as June, 1782, that those two papers, pp. 18 and 38, written by the late Sir John Fenn, of Norfolk (the whole of the Effays, compofing the literary part of the faid Specimens, being alfo written by various gentlemen, whofe names are prefixed thereto) were introduced,a period when I had but barely looked into the mines of antiquarian

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The "clustered columns."-The of tenfible properties of thele characters do not apply in any wife to Mr. M.'s remarks, either as evidence from “Gloucefter" or Ely." I prefume, he has not vifited, furveyed, or otherwife noticed, the Cathedrals of thofe two cities.

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Mr. Urban, to end at once this "controverfy," I once more maintain the confiftency of all my obfervations on Tavistock chapel (the greater part of which have been overlooked by Mr. M.), made on the best of motives, the defence and honour of our antient Architecture, and for the inftruction of young ftudents in that line of profeffional employ. My animadvertions were likewife free from all perjonal auimofity, as I am wholly unacquainted either with the builder of the chapel, or his "vindicator."

To the final judgment of a difcerning and impartial publick, then, this controverfy, as it is called, is fubmit ted; and if they fhould take the trouble to examine both our opinions with the erection itfelf as pointed at under the name of "Taviftock chapel," they will be foon fenfible who is the "infulter," and who the "infulted." J. C.

Surveyor (by inclination) of the various Styles of the antient Ar chitecture of England, not from Prints," but from the real Remains of antient Buildings among us.

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Nov. 12.

N three panes of glafs in my poffeffion is the following infeription; which probably has been taken from fome old chapel. Can you tell me whence?

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Mr. URBAN, Lincoln, Sept. 20.

PERMIT me to obtrude once more upon your notice the famous mantle-tree in the parfonage-houfe at Helmdon, of which you have given fo excellent a fac-fimile, vol. LXX. p. 1232. Mr. Denne, in his examination of the well-known date rudely fculptured upon it, had propofed to read it, M° DOMI AN° 533*; and favs, "there feems to have been a ftudied conceit and quaintnefs in arranging the infeription, brief as it is. I cannot refer to any other infeription in which the word DOM is fet before ANNot." On this a writer in the Anti-Jacobin Review for Auguft, 1802, p. 360, remarks, "nor can any one elfe, we believe. Such an arrange ment, indeed, is impoflible to be true in itself, and can only be attributed to fome blunder in the reading. The first word we may be fure is ANNO; and the letters of Wallis's and Ward's copies may be formed into AN, the o, A, being complicated in a ligature with N, and the fecond froke in A confiituting equally the first in N. The fecond pannel fupplies us with the letters that fhould naturally follow Do, and that are recognized by all. The third pannel, therefore, is the firft to furnish a date; and, from what we have feen already of W. R. the inftituted rector of 1523, we are contrained to read the whole as Mo 555. The letter with the

over it must plainly be me, for millefimo, and the three figures following, all fo fimilar in general form, hooking in at the head towards the letter, ending in a curve from it at the tail, yet all three unequal in length, are afcertained to be all of them fives, by five the afcer tained leader."" When W. R. vacated the benefice," fays Mr. Denne, "or whether by refignation, ceffion, or death, is not known." Archæol. vol. XIII. p. 147. Yet it is known. "The next fucceffor, in Brydges's lift of incumbents, notes Mr. Gough exprefly, ibid. is placed under 1500, as 1570, the year of commencement to the Parish Regifter, is ten years after." From which the fame wtiter infers, that "William Renalde was inftituted in 1523, but was fucceeded in 1560;

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*Or rather millefimo, quinquagefimo, Domini, anno, tricefimo, tertio, making a part of the character in the firft pannel ftand for the 500. In this Mr. D. was evidently mistaken; for what was then to become of the first Arabic figure in the third pannel? † Archæologia, vol. XIII. p. 117.

that he erected the house probably in the intermediate period; and that, in 1555, he furnished his parlour in it with a wooden chimney-piece, on which he had the initials of his name, with the date of the year, and the arms of the kingdom, carved."

I entirely agree with this Reviewer in his reading of ANNO DO M, but not fo with refpect to the Arabic numerals 555. Whoever looks at the fac-fimile given in the 12th plate of Archæologia, vol. XIII. as well as that in your Magazine, before referred to, will obferve a manifeft difference between the first and two fucceeding figures, which laft are nearly alike: fo that I would read them M° 533. If (as this writer remarks, and as I think) the firft is an afcertained figure, I have little doubt but that the other two are threes, from comparing them with a very early fpecimen of Arabic notation, which I have now before me. This is part of an old MS Calendar on parchment; in which fort of computation, as well as in chronicles, mathematical, aftronomical, and geometrical works, thefe figures were firft ufed. Befides, it is much more probable that the incumbent would re-build, or make these alterations in his houfe, ten years after his inftitution, than after retaining the living two-and-thirty years, and but fo fort a time before it was vacated.

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Mr. URBAN, Bagbrook, Oct. 25.
Nanfiver to your frugal correlpondent

Horticulus, who (from not paying the pottage of his letter), I apprehend will relifh a cheap method of destroying the Gor-fly, or fpinach bug, I trouble you with an account of that deftructive infect. Like the turnip fly, the diminutivenefs of its fize feems to fecure it from general obfervation; and though the gardener often moft feverely feels the effects of its cankerous tooth, he is fometimes ignorant even of the existence of this his little fecret enemy. As I have no doubt but a well-waged war might be moft advantageoufly carried on against this marauder, I fhall first obferve that the favourite depofit for the egg feems to be among the removed afhes from houfes, forges, blacksmiths' hops, and the like; from fuch heaps, I have obferved the young gor to rife in millions about the beginning of July, and from that time till September it will ufually be found on the un

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der fide the leaf of moft young garden vegetables. But to the rifing fpinach it is indeed a deadly foe, utterly deftroying in a few nights the largelt and moft promifing beds of this moft wholfome, hardy, and ufeful plant. The common preventative, of firewing a little lime over the bed at the time of fewing, is in my opinion of no ufe whatever. About fix weeks ago, returning home late in the evening from a neighbour's houfe, I obferved as I paffed my fpinach bed (and no where elfe in the garden) that my lantern was furrounded by gors, feveral of which I perceived in a ftate of reft on the glafs, when in the houfe I was about to extinguifh the candle. Knowing the damage and difappointment I had often fuftained by this infect, a thought ftruck me, that, as they were fo easily difturbed or attracted by light, I might turn the accidental difcovery to fone general advantage; I therefore oiled the entire glafs of my lantern all round, put in a fresh halfpenny candle, and carried it to the other end of the fpinach bed, where I left it raifed on a pot which happened to be near the bed. On the morrow I infpected my gor-trap, and was gratified by finding the whole furface of the oiled glafs completely covered with handcuffed and fettered fpinachbugs; with a larger lautern, I repeated the experiment three times on the fame pot, and (excepting the laft) with great fuccefs. And the event is, that, for three or four yards round this pot, the fpinach is very luxuriant compared with that near the walk where I firtt obferved their attachment to light, and where the fpinach will not (from its prefent appearance) furvive the winter. Any with expreffed on your part for farther information (fuch as I can give) on this fubject, fhall be readily attended to. WM. PALMER.

Mr. URBAN, Baldock, Oct. 20.

ALTHARICUS, p. 702, feems not to acquiefce in what I have faid, p. 631, on the true caufe of the honeydew; but recommends Mr. Curtis's treatife on that fubject, where he thinks I fhall be fully fatisfied that that fubftance is really the excrement of an infect. Not having feen that work, I can fay little or nothing about it; but am certain, had the author taken much pains to inveftigate the fubject, he would have been of a different opis GENT. MAG. November, 1802.

nion. For, till within thefe four years, it was my lot to be fituated near coppices, in which oaks and other trees abounding with faccharine juices grew, where I had frequent opportunities of attending to this fubject; and, from my own obfervations, I am confident that there are two kinds of honeydew, or at leaft they are produced by two very different ways; viz. one is an exudation from the leaves by the heat of the weather, and the other is the excrement of the aphides. Now this latter, or that alluded to by Altharicus, is often found in gardens upon the leaves of different trees and fhrubs, especially on thofe of the currant-trees, and is always found upon the lower leaves, or thofe under which the aphides repofe themfelves. The upper leaves of the trees or fhrubs have none of this honey-dew upon them, except they are overhung by other trees having aphides upon them. The firft kind is moftly found upon the leaves of the oak, and in fome feafons may be seen in great quantities, though in others little or none of it is to be found; but, when it abounds, fhould the weather continue fine and dry, the bees will be uncommonly active in collecting and carrying this nectarine juice into their hives: on the contrary, if heavy dews or rain with cold winds fucceed, then the quantity of honey collected will be but fall. As the in duftry of the bee is proverbial, hence in thofe bad feafons fhe will not be idle; but, when honey cannot be ob tained, the will fill her ftore-houfe with the farina of the flowers. It was exactly the cafe this fummer; for, during greater part of June and July (their principal time of gathering), it proved cold and windy with frequent showers; and, at fuch intervals as they were permitted to rove the fields, there was very little honey to be found, except what was fcantily afforded them by the

aphides; the confequence of that was, they filled their combs with farina, or bee-bread.

Again refpecting the mildew, he fays the honey-dew is not always followed by mildew, for the former is very apt to appear on cherry leaves, on which the latter is never feen Now in this he is mistaken; for this year I was eye-witness to the contrary. On examining a cherry-tree very lately, whereon there had been honey-dews, I

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